thats why i specified the stupid ones! yes the unpleasant and world-shaking surprises arent entirely spared from the possibility of being stupid but that isnt generally their defining aspect when a surprise is only stupid however whatever unpleasantness it may also contain is usually minimal enough to not overwhelm its stupidity its just a thing that happens while being remarkably stupid that may not seem especially comforting at its face but in contrast to the potentially disastrous alternative its really not that bad
Yes, by contrast, stepping in a puddle is preferable to falling in the river during the flooding season. If it's all the same, I'd prefer not to get "wet" either way.
i dont think stepping in a puddle really qualifies for my definition of stupid there unless it was a puddle of gold or something there must be an inexplicable quality to it that generally outweighs the unpleasantness maybe the unpleasantness of a rain puddle is minor but theres nothing particularly inexplicable about a rain puddle
Depending on the season and location, it can be more or less inexplicable.
Though I don't care about any of the metaphors enough to feel like I can't surrender them. It doesn't change that overall, I'd prefer no surprises, and that's... that.
well if youre going to discuss the inconvenience of surprises now considering how the conversation began one cant help acknowledging the conspicuous tuskbeast it invites
I don't know what you mean by tuskbeast, but if you're asking after honest opinions, no, I wasn't appreciative of the surprise itself, and yes, it wasn't an unkind surprise.
Though if you're planning to repeat the gift giving next year and we're both still here, then at least it'll be mutual. With all this, it's... I don't - want things. It's weird. I don't need the things people give me. It's different, when I do. From a practical perspective, it's not good to say no to those kinds of things, but for the nonessentials, it's not comfortable for me.
I haven't had to deal with feeling like I owe people for generosity before.
i rarely have to deal with my generosity actually being owed anything if you want to repay it just make use of the gifts youve already expressed the intention to do that so your obligation is settled
now unfortunately that discomfort of yours is something you will probably just have to come to terms with life will rarely fall along strictly essential lines not everything you get will be something you fell that you may need so the wisest response may be to work out exactly what it is you could see yourself growing to want
also its a pachyderm if youre going to be fussy about it
thats a difficult thing to give much more difficult a thing to promise home itself is such a varied concept to give strict definition
to me home isnt even a place places dont last long enough for one to depend on its the people you feel most comfortable with the ones you trust and can allow yourself to be open with so while thats something that cannot be given i can at least make effort to encourage it
Home is my illusion. It's nothing I'll have again, not physically. That's okay. I don't know how much I realized you could find that place with people until it had been gone. It's still not something I'm comfortable with.
I don't enjoy welcoming pain, no matter what I say about living in this moment. I'm not so strong for all of that.
[ it's her way of agreeing that it's complicated. trusting to be open... she more trusts that she, or they, will leave. and that's expected. and not okay, but life. nothing about it needs to be fair. she doesn't look for fairness, or even reciprocation.
but she hesitates. she's enough of that kind of coward that now and again, she has to hesitate. ]
i dont think any of us are talking about the most logical and practical approach is an entirely different thing than living it its all a matter of covering our weaknesses so we dont have to expose them and this is a case where what will keep you safe and what will keep you sane can be at odds especially at the beginning
i cant say that pain will always be worth it but it can when its from giving a damn about someone who gives as much of a damn for you for me i think being without it is what really scares me being alone is such a high cost for being untouchable
[ because that's her own crutch, the shield she bears against her own cowardice. if she had no one she mattered to, then what would be the point of her? it's pain either way, one just holds a much worthier reward for her. ]
So that's not frightening. Maybe, in senses, not preferrable, but I never expected otherwise.
Friends are an allowance. Anything more is unnecessary, and I don't know if in that kind of aftermath I'd know what to do with myself. So I'm a coward, too. I don't want to find out.
[ she's scared to do that, because what happens if it matters that much? she's always been scared of that to an extent. when people matter. when she can't do what she needs to do. when she stumbles, and there's nothing there to steady her when for some reason she's come to expect their will be.
so there's willful blindness she indulges in.
because that, in her coward's way, is easier, when caring is enough to make her fall. ]
Keep myself from drowning. It's what I do every day. There's no grand who. I do it to survive until I can learn to live, and then... I don't know. Figure out if there's any way not to go back. I'm fairly sure there's a way to manage that much.
You don't take friendship lightly. I still am not easy with the idea, let alone the working reality. I'll keep fucking it up. That's fine... I don't expect otherwise. But it's worth stating, just as it's worth stating that given a choice, I wouldn't go home. And I wouldn't go home with anyone else, no matter how wonderful their world.
thats the difference i suppose because if it was only me on my own with no one else to see to depend on or look after thats when i wouldnt know what to do with myself im sure youve noticed by now that my sense of self preservation isnt especially strong im just no good at living for me
i could never really say whether id return or not theres the chance things could come out successfully at home but somehow i dont know that i can really believe that given the choice to stay i dont know whether or not i would take it or not but in that scenario it wouldnt be my decision either
i dont suppose we really can understand another fully not without inhabiting their thoughts directly i suppose then acceptance is the best approach then when what is there can be accepted
tears or screaming arent really my typical strategy in that sort of situation not unless theyre extreme enough to require them there are far better persuasive measures that can be catered to whatever the occurrence is
pardon granted i suppose we will see just which reactions become appropriate when such an occasion may arrive in the meantime annie i hope youll enjoy your remaining days of this year
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yes the unpleasant and world-shaking surprises arent entirely spared from the possibility of being stupid
but that isnt generally their defining aspect
when a surprise is only stupid however whatever unpleasantness it may also contain is usually minimal enough to not overwhelm its stupidity
its just a thing that happens while being remarkably stupid
that may not seem especially comforting at its face
but in contrast to the potentially disastrous alternative its really not that bad
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unless it was a puddle of gold or something
there must be an inexplicable quality to it that generally outweighs the unpleasantness
maybe the unpleasantness of a rain puddle is minor but theres nothing particularly inexplicable about a rain puddle
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Though I don't care about any of the metaphors enough to feel like I can't surrender them. It doesn't change that overall, I'd prefer no surprises, and that's... that.
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would you have preferred that surprise never occurred
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[ KANAYA... ]
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one cant help acknowledging the conspicuous tuskbeast it invites
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Though if you're planning to repeat the gift giving next year and we're both still here, then at least it'll be mutual. With all this, it's... I don't - want things. It's weird. I don't need the things people give me. It's different, when I do. From a practical perspective, it's not good to say no to those kinds of things, but for the nonessentials, it's not comfortable for me.
I haven't had to deal with feeling like I owe people for generosity before.
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if you want to repay it just make use of the gifts
youve already expressed the intention to do that so your obligation is settled
now unfortunately that discomfort of yours is something you will probably just have to come to terms with
life will rarely fall along strictly essential lines
not everything you get will be something you fell that you may need
so the wisest response may be to work out exactly what it is you could see yourself growing to want
also its a pachyderm if youre going to be fussy about it
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[ "So The Wisest Response May Be To Work Out Exactly What It Is You Could See Yourself Growing To Want" ]
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well. wouldn't they all. ]
thats a difficult thing to give
much more difficult a thing to promise
home itself is such a varied concept to give strict definition
to me home isnt even a place
places dont last long enough for one to depend on
its the people you feel most comfortable with
the ones you trust and can allow yourself to be open with
so while thats something that cannot be given
i can at least make effort to encourage it
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I don't enjoy welcoming pain, no matter what I say about living in this moment. I'm not so strong for all of that.
[ it's her way of agreeing that it's complicated. trusting to be open... she more trusts that she, or they, will leave. and that's expected. and not okay, but life. nothing about it needs to be fair. she doesn't look for fairness, or even reciprocation.
but she hesitates. she's enough of that kind of coward that now and again, she has to hesitate. ]
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talking about the most logical and practical approach is an entirely different thing than living it
its all a matter of covering our weaknesses so we dont have to expose them
and this is a case where what will keep you safe and what will keep you sane can be at odds
especially at the beginning
i cant say that pain will always be worth it
but it can when its from giving a damn about someone who gives as much of a damn for you
for me i think
being without it is what really scares me
being alone is such a high cost for being untouchable
[ because that's her own crutch, the shield she bears against her own cowardice. if she had no one she mattered to, then what would be the point of her? it's pain either way, one just holds a much worthier reward for her. ]
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So that's not frightening. Maybe, in senses, not preferrable, but I never expected otherwise.
Friends are an allowance. Anything more is unnecessary, and I don't know if in that kind of aftermath I'd know what to do with myself. So I'm a coward, too. I don't want to find out.
[ she's scared to do that, because what happens if it matters that much? she's always been scared of that to an extent. when people matter. when she can't do what she needs to do. when she stumbles, and there's nothing there to steady her when for some reason she's come to expect their will be.
so there's willful blindness she indulges in.
because that, in her coward's way, is easier, when caring is enough to make her fall. ]
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do you know what to do with yourself now
why you do it and who it would be for
friendships can be enough
you know i dont take those lightly
anything more isnt really what i was talking about
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You don't take friendship lightly. I still am not easy with the idea, let alone the working reality. I'll keep fucking it up. That's fine... I don't expect otherwise. But it's worth stating, just as it's worth stating that given a choice, I wouldn't go home. And I wouldn't go home with anyone else, no matter how wonderful their world.
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because if it was only me on my own with no one else to see to depend on or look after
thats when i wouldnt know what to do with myself
im sure youve noticed by now that my sense of self preservation isnt especially strong
im just no good at living for me
i could never really say whether id return or not
theres the chance things could come out successfully at home
but somehow i dont know that i can really believe that
given the choice to stay i dont know whether or not i would take it or not
but in that scenario it wouldnt be my decision either
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not without inhabiting their thoughts directly
i suppose then acceptance is the best approach then
when what is there can be accepted
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not unless theyre extreme enough to require them
there are far better persuasive measures that can be catered to whatever the occurrence is
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i suppose we will see just which reactions become appropriate when such an occasion may arrive
in the meantime annie i hope youll enjoy your remaining days of this year
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