I don't think it serves an actual function past that, but in some cultures, sharing an umbrella is apparently an intimate gesture when done with any other than family members. Intimate seems to imply romantic interest in this case. Regardless, it's not common across cultures, but as a consequence, I'm not inviting the headache of sharing umbrellas with anyone from more modern times in Japan again anytime soon.
[ the things she learns, man, the things she learns and agrees with Artemis about these things being stupid (but worth respecting when she's aware) ]
Well I Cant Speak To Japanese Customs But It Does Recall A Song I Know Id Say It Isnt Necessarily Specific To The Umbrellas Themselves So Much As The Forced Proximity Forced Proximity Is A Rather Storied Trope In Romantic Narratives
[ kanaya's always had a very...special relationship with this kind of thing. ]
Well Maybe Not In The Specifics No An Import Relationship Is Better Built On Shared Experience Than Empty Promises Passing Ships In The Night As It Were But It Is At Least An Indication Of Where The Idea Takes Its Origin The More General Conceit Is One Of Sharing Those Experiences Together And Offering I Dont Know Reprieve From Them Shelter And Protection Using The Umbrella In A Storm As Its Central Metaphor The Mistake Is In Believing That It Will Be Unending Which While I Will Forgive That She Has Never Been Pulled Into Another Universe For Any Extended Period Of Time Is Perhaps A Little Naive Anyway But The Only People Who Like To Dwell On The Inevitable Ending Are Sad And Desperate
Being aware that things end doesn't have to be sad and desperate. Unless it takes from you any enjoyment you have along the way... then it's easier not to form those bonds you'll regret in the aftermath. Or so I've felt before. At the same time... an idea of something, or someone like that, it has an appeal, doesn't it? Like finding a bit of clarity in the chaos of the world.
[ Something warm or tangible to hold on to, for a while. It's nothing she's experienced personally, not to any deep degree. It required an honesty she couldn't afford, and the mission, much as she did not like or respect it, came first. But she didn't fault people for caring. Needle them for being overprotective at the detriment of the one they cared about? Yes.
Yet love in all it's non-obsessive, destroying forms, is not something she looks down on. Neither is friendship. So she supposes, on those grounds, she can understand, even if that understanding is gaining unfortunate allusions to umbrellas... which are a neat enough invention on their own. ]
The world is painful and confusing enough on its own. Pulling something warmer out of it for a while... that would be something worth having.
[ in before anyone mistakes annie as being a closet romantic. a realist can still see how strong bonds of all kinds are worthwhile, even as they hurt. nothing may be meant to last. it doesn't make things not worth trying, when you have the chance. ]
It's still a silly song. A little better than the song about being blue.
Is That The One By Billie Holiday Because I Dont Know I Rather Like That One
[ though kanaya manages to still be gay even when she's blue. but her plans with her man don't tend to fall through, for the same reason. ]
Still I think Theres A Significant Difference Between Awareness Of An End In The Distant Future And Dwelling On It Dwelling Is Where The Desperation Originates Few Love Songs Approach That Topic With A Casual Attitude And Being Within Those Moments I Can Understand Why They Wouldnt To Hold Something Beautiful And Warm A Light That Pierces Your Isolated Darkness And Then To Know That It Will One Day Slip Through Your Fingers
Im Going To Keep Talking So As To Help Myself Forget Whatever Nonsense I Just Listened To
[ girl, she judgin' ]
It Is Nice The Old Saying Goes That Its Better To Have Loved And Lost Than Never Have Loved At All And While Im Not Always Certain Of That Its Certainly Worthwhile To Have
I Told You A While Back That Youll Have To Find Your Reason To Pull Yourself Back To Your Feet When You Fall Well Thats Mine
Still If Thats What Youre Listening To We Will Absolutely Need To Get You Some Wider Exposure
[ just five months and she's already on such a bad track, who can rightly consider that okay ]
But There Isnt Any Reason You Should Have To Follow The Same Template Where Your Passions Lie Is Hardly As Important As That They Lie Somewhere And It Has To Be About You Centering Everything Entirely On Others Will Only Hurt You In The End
i love the assumption that annie actually listens to music
[ one day she finds herself on an elevator or put on hold when something suddenly catches her fancy and she has no idea how to find out more about it. ]
wearing hoodies investigating leads subtle humor there must be more beyond that but its a start at least
but i find it difficult to fathom a song like that would be played in public areas the lack of sudden violent mobs forming seemingly at random at that precise time is proof of it im sure thats not something we wouldnt have heard about
[ player sadly checks dates to figure out how to answer this question properly annie reads that over. and closes her eyes for a moment, tempted to rub her forehead. it's... complicated, as far as she can tell. she doesn't precisely "get" his deal with her. he'd save himself a hell of a headache if he's just write her off like she'd hoped he would back in August. ]
I'm not surprised.
[ Not with how things were at the time, or how they sort of stand now. You know, uneasily and uncertain, but... up an apology? ]
He doesn't know how to balance the fact of what I've confessed to being responsible for against his desire to be friends, based on who he believed me to be before that confession, and I guess who I still am after. From what Uzu Sanageyama was telling me unprompted, it's something he's struggling with. Uzu thought it was progress, since he wasn't choosing to run away.
So really, I don't know. I'm difficult for him.
[ and really... again, she knows it'd just be easier if he didn't try. which is what she doesn't get, but also doesn't press all that hard. ]
everything is difficult for him you would almost think hes never had to interact with actual people before whatever this academy his lady satsuki kept it certainly wasnt anywhere made to experience reality
[ she remembers how he'd said he was given his first laptop at ten. it'd changed his landscape right before he would have been an adult on her world - with his closer to mirroring one like this Earth, it came during important formative years of his extended childhood. yes everything is difficult for him.
annie frankly thinks the same of many peers who don't seem prepared to handle the world as it is. at the same time... she can't help but admire the idealists, for believing as strongly as they do. ]
I don't think he did. Not outside of his teammates. As for how out of touch things seem to have been from our idea of reality... I suppose what one does to handle sentient clothing looks as ludicrous from the outside as it probably was from the inside.
[ idealists are something kanaya has never had much use for. theirs are only dreams that are fit to be broken in the end, and she disdains the naivety more than she envies it. ]
circumstances may change but people dont not on their most fundamental levels i have trouble believing anyone finds his conduct with others acceptable whether from a world with sentient clothing or not and it will only continue to bring him ill consequences until he realizes that
[ it's something over which they'll always be opposed - annie finds in idealists something she wishes she had in herself, but can't trade in, and won't, against her sense of realism in facing the world. she can't afford their kind of clarity. ]
I don't think anyone does. But you're a good friend to him, Kanaya, to be concerned about what trouble he'll continue to invite onto himself in continuing to act on in ignorance to the effect he has on others, and its whys.
[ or so she assumes. it makes more sense for why kanaya's talking about him now, regardless of how he came up in conversation. ]
[ it's not an unsafe assumption, kanaya conducts herself as someone unafraid to speak her mind or stick her nose in places it doesn't belong. there's almost no other kind of relationship for them to have. ]
it would be nice if he saw it that way instead of trying to leverage friendship as some reason i should leave well enough alone if the boy knew me at all he would understand its the same exact reason i cant and wont
nonetheless he "promised" he wouldnt anymore i dont really believe him so if you happen to catch him stalking you in the future do let me know
[ sticking her nose in places and being a very odd person to circle around, getting to know on some level, attempting to understand on others. Annie's not quite sure what to make of those parts of her, mostly as applied to anything Annie is involved with. ]
I'd prefer to deal with him myself in case of such an event. Though my guess is you'd want to know for the sake of this "promise" he made with you?
[ #relationship dynamics annie has never had to deal with: promises. she simply doesn't make them. ]
the promise is empty i dont give it any weight its more about the social cues and the lessons hed be refusing to learn but having your own dissatisfaction to cite would also help then he couldnt try using some nebulous "thing" the two of you supposedly have as an excuse because he definitely did that
I'm not sure what you mean using some nebulous "thing" we two supposedly have as an excuse.
[ the nebulous thing where he doesn't know what to do with her and blurts out lovely things like you murderer in casual conversation, that thing? annie shakes her head. she doesn't get what kanaya and houka were even talking about over her, when it comes down to it. correcting for stalking is about learning stealth or subtly in the practice if it's still felt as necessary.
she doesn't think pointing that out to kanaya right now is going to help anything, and she wonders if it wouldn't come off wrong, anyway. but it's not like she can fault him in her particular case - she'd hold it against him for others, simply because they can't handle that kind of scrutiny. annie doesn't like it, but she's dealt with it, and it had come to a point of being dangerous to herself or others, or even houka himself...
she'd handle it. which is why kanaya's request makes her tap on her comm, ultimately shrugging. ]
With him, I'd be more concerned on your part if he's targeting people for no discernible reason. Being followed in a public space is a nuisance. Worrying about my electronic transmissions is a nuisance, but I know those aren't protected anyway. He taught me that months ago, and not out of spite at the time.
I don't think I'm the measuring stick you want to hold his behavior against. As for his behavior in relation to me - I won't be delegating my response to inappropriate behaviors elsewhere.
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[ the things she learns, man, the things she learns and agrees with Artemis about these things being stupid (but worth respecting when she's aware) ]
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But It Does Recall A Song I Know
Id Say It Isnt Necessarily Specific To The Umbrellas Themselves So Much As The Forced Proximity
Forced Proximity Is A Rather Storied Trope In Romantic Narratives
[ kanaya's always had a very...special relationship with this kind of thing. ]
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[ forced carries weird connotations.
she does not know any of these tropes. at all. ]
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Well Forced In This Case Is More Implied By The Small Space
You Can Only Fit So Much Under An Umbrella
Ill Just Let Rihanna Explain
after about how long it takes to listen to that song...
Spacial awareness can keep it from being all that uncomfortable.
[ as in, be aware it's limited space and deal with it as a reasonable person, it's just another means of avoiding ending up soaked ]
I find it almost amusing how inappropriate that song is for anyone among the imPort population. "We'll never be worlds apart?"
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An Import Relationship Is Better Built On Shared Experience Than Empty Promises
Passing Ships In The Night As It Were
But It Is At Least An Indication Of Where The Idea Takes Its Origin
The More General Conceit Is One Of Sharing Those Experiences Together And Offering
I Dont Know
Reprieve From Them
Shelter And Protection
Using The Umbrella In A Storm As Its Central Metaphor
The Mistake Is In Believing That It Will Be Unending
Which While I Will Forgive That She Has Never Been Pulled Into Another Universe For Any Extended Period Of Time
Is Perhaps A Little Naive Anyway
But The Only People Who Like To Dwell On The Inevitable Ending Are Sad And Desperate
[ aka kanaya. ]
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[ Something warm or tangible to hold on to, for a while. It's nothing she's experienced personally, not to any deep degree. It required an honesty she couldn't afford, and the mission, much as she did not like or respect it, came first. But she didn't fault people for caring. Needle them for being overprotective at the detriment of the one they cared about? Yes.
Yet love in all it's non-obsessive, destroying forms, is not something she looks down on. Neither is friendship. So she supposes, on those grounds, she can understand, even if that understanding is gaining unfortunate allusions to umbrellas... which are a neat enough invention on their own. ]
The world is painful and confusing enough on its own. Pulling something warmer out of it for a while... that would be something worth having.
[ in before anyone mistakes annie as being a closet romantic. a realist can still see how strong bonds of all kinds are worthwhile, even as they hurt. nothing may be meant to last. it doesn't make things not worth trying, when you have the chance. ]
It's still a silly song. A little better than the song about being blue.
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Because I Dont Know I Rather Like That One
[ though kanaya manages to still be gay even when she's blue. but her plans with her man don't tend to fall through, for the same reason. ]
Still I think Theres A Significant Difference Between Awareness Of An End In The Distant Future And Dwelling On It
Dwelling Is Where The Desperation Originates
Few Love Songs Approach That Topic With A Casual Attitude
And Being Within Those Moments I Can Understand Why They Wouldnt
To Hold Something Beautiful And Warm
A Light That Pierces Your Isolated Darkness
And Then To Know That It Will One Day Slip Through Your Fingers
Its A Frightening Thought
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[ look, it's a song inumuta was listening to on the track months back, she has no idea who or what billie holiday is ]
Yes. I can see why it is. But I guess, when you're used to having nothing, the idea of having something for a while is... nice.
four minutes later
[ girl, she judgin' ]
It Is Nice
The Old Saying Goes That Its Better To Have Loved And Lost Than Never Have Loved At All
And While Im Not Always Certain Of That
Its Certainly Worthwhile To Have
I Told You A While Back That Youll Have To Find Your Reason To Pull Yourself Back To Your Feet When You Fall
Well Thats Mine
oh no
[ at some point you just stop caring and just start realizing you have the worst pop culture education ever and that's okay ]
I'll probably focus on something more personally obtainable, but it's a sentiment I can understand.
I'm glad you have your reason. I hope the better parts of it are the ones you hold closest to heart.
laughs directly into the sun
[ just five months and she's already on such a bad track, who can rightly consider that okay ]
But There Isnt Any Reason You Should Have To Follow The Same Template
Where Your Passions Lie Is Hardly As Important As That They Lie Somewhere
And It Has To Be About You
Centering Everything Entirely On Others Will Only Hurt You In The End
i love the assumption that annie actually listens to music
[ someone needs to introduce her to orchestral music just to see her wide eyes for the sheer enormity of sound
make it a nice orchestra and she'll do the nerd quiet listening thing to it the whole time creativity is amazing ]
My passions, hm? I wonder what those are.
[ no word on centering on others. she both has and hasn't done that... it's a weird line. ]
how can anyone not listen to music, the idea is unthinkable
wearing hoodies
investigating leads
subtle humor
there must be more beyond that but its a start at least
but i find it difficult to fathom a song like that would be played in public areas
the lack of sudden violent mobs forming seemingly at random at that precise time is proof of it
im sure thats not something we wouldnt have heard about
and yet it has been thought
Anyway, that song wasn't playing in a public area. You can blame Houka Inumuta for the introduction.
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whats his deal with you anyway
did you know i caught him lurking at the dance lessons
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player sadly checks dates to figure out how to answer this question properlyannie reads that over. and closes her eyes for a moment, tempted to rub her forehead. it's... complicated, as far as she can tell. she doesn't precisely "get" his deal with her. he'd save himself a hell of a headache if he's just write her off like she'd hoped he would back in August. ]I'm not surprised.
[ Not with how things were at the time, or how they sort of stand now. You know, uneasily and uncertain, but... up an apology? ]
He doesn't know how to balance the fact of what I've confessed to being responsible for against his desire to be friends, based on who he believed me to be before that confession, and I guess who I still am after. From what Uzu Sanageyama was telling me unprompted, it's something he's struggling with. Uzu thought it was progress, since he wasn't choosing to run away.
So really, I don't know. I'm difficult for him.
[ and really... again, she knows it'd just be easier if he didn't try. which is what she doesn't get, but also doesn't press all that hard. ]
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you would almost think hes never had to interact with actual people before
whatever this academy his lady satsuki kept it certainly wasnt anywhere made to experience reality
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annie frankly thinks the same of many peers who don't seem prepared to handle the world as it is. at the same time... she can't help but admire the idealists, for believing as strongly as they do. ]
I don't think he did. Not outside of his teammates. As for how out of touch things seem to have been from our idea of reality... I suppose what one does to handle sentient clothing looks as ludicrous from the outside as it probably was from the inside.
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circumstances may change but people dont
not on their most fundamental levels
i have trouble believing anyone finds his conduct with others acceptable
whether from a world with sentient clothing or not
and it will only continue to bring him ill consequences until he realizes that
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I don't think anyone does. But you're a good friend to him, Kanaya, to be concerned about what trouble he'll continue to invite onto himself in continuing to act on in ignorance to the effect he has on others, and its whys.
[ or so she assumes. it makes more sense for why kanaya's talking about him now, regardless of how he came up in conversation. ]
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it would be nice if he saw it that way
instead of trying to leverage friendship as some reason i should leave well enough alone
if the boy knew me at all he would understand its the same exact reason i cant and wont
nonetheless he "promised" he wouldnt anymore
i dont really believe him so if you happen to catch him stalking you in the future do let me know
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I'd prefer to deal with him myself in case of such an event. Though my guess is you'd want to know for the sake of this "promise" he made with you?
[ #relationship dynamics annie has never had to deal with: promises. she simply doesn't make them. ]
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the promise is empty i dont give it any weight
its more about the social cues and the lessons hed be refusing to learn
but having your own dissatisfaction to cite would also help
then he couldnt try using some nebulous "thing" the two of you supposedly have as an excuse
because he definitely did that
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[ the nebulous thing where he doesn't know what to do with her and blurts out lovely things like you murderer in casual conversation, that thing? annie shakes her head. she doesn't get what kanaya and houka were even talking about over her, when it comes down to it. correcting for stalking is about learning stealth or subtly in the practice if it's still felt as necessary.
she doesn't think pointing that out to kanaya right now is going to help anything, and she wonders if it wouldn't come off wrong, anyway. but it's not like she can fault him in her particular case - she'd hold it against him for others, simply because they can't handle that kind of scrutiny. annie doesn't like it, but she's dealt with it, and it had come to a point of being dangerous to herself or others, or even houka himself...
she'd handle it. which is why kanaya's request makes her tap on her comm, ultimately shrugging. ]
With him, I'd be more concerned on your part if he's targeting people for no discernible reason. Being followed in a public space is a nuisance. Worrying about my electronic transmissions is a nuisance, but I know those aren't protected anyway. He taught me that months ago, and not out of spite at the time.
I don't think I'm the measuring stick you want to hold his behavior against. As for his behavior in relation to me - I won't be delegating my response to inappropriate behaviors elsewhere.
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