ᴘsychopomp 💀 (![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
glowsferatu) wrote2021-09-15 11:38 pm
glowsferatu) wrote2021-09-15 11:38 pm
IC CONTACT
If Youve Come This Far I Doubt You Cant Guess What To Do From Here
Mind The Beep
phone | voicemail | text | video | email
archive
If Youve Come This Far I Doubt You Cant Guess What To Do From Here
Mind The Beep
phone | voicemail | text | video | email
archive
I've dealt with plenty of primadonnas, Inumuta. I don't fear her.
[ she's silent a moment, weighing the situation. then, finally, relents. ]
Fine. But I still think she could stand to be challenged far more often. That's how one turns out so wrapped up in the importance of her own voice, when she's never heard one dissenting.
Fine. But I still think she could stand to be challenged far more often. That's how one turns out so wrapped up in the importance of her own voice, when she's never heard one dissenting.
Thank you. I will personally inform her of her misunderstandings about the Porter, and explain the reasoning behind what you've said to her.
Her tendency towards grandstanding is simply a part of who she is, and attacking her for that will only make you enemies.
Her tendency towards grandstanding is simply a part of who she is, and attacking her for that will only make you enemies.
I'm sure there must be something more there to inspire such loyalty in you lot. But after this, I'm having difficulty seeing it.
[ you're missing exactly nothing, annie. ]
the promise is empty i dont give it any weight
its more about the social cues and the lessons hed be refusing to learn
but having your own dissatisfaction to cite would also help
then he couldnt try using some nebulous "thing" the two of you supposedly have as an excuse
because he definitely did that
the promise is empty i dont give it any weight
its more about the social cues and the lessons hed be refusing to learn
but having your own dissatisfaction to cite would also help
then he couldnt try using some nebulous "thing" the two of you supposedly have as an excuse
because he definitely did that
I'm not questioning your family, I'm talking about her role as leader. One can be both, I'm sure, but it wouldn't be wise if both were for the same reasons.
[ the longer they go on, the more they'll have to do. probably they should just pass out vouchers at some point. ]
No, I don't suppose we can. It may be that he'll actually be able to help us find a way out of this.
No, I don't suppose we can. It may be that he'll actually be able to help us find a way out of this.
I'm not sure what you mean using some nebulous "thing" we two supposedly have as an excuse.
[ the nebulous thing where he doesn't know what to do with her and blurts out lovely things like you murderer in casual conversation, that thing? annie shakes her head. she doesn't get what kanaya and houka were even talking about over her, when it comes down to it. correcting for stalking is about learning stealth or subtly in the practice if it's still felt as necessary.
she doesn't think pointing that out to kanaya right now is going to help anything, and she wonders if it wouldn't come off wrong, anyway. but it's not like she can fault him in her particular case - she'd hold it against him for others, simply because they can't handle that kind of scrutiny. annie doesn't like it, but she's dealt with it, and it had come to a point of being dangerous to herself or others, or even houka himself...
she'd handle it. which is why kanaya's request makes her tap on her comm, ultimately shrugging. ]
With him, I'd be more concerned on your part if he's targeting people for no discernible reason. Being followed in a public space is a nuisance. Worrying about my electronic transmissions is a nuisance, but I know those aren't protected anyway. He taught me that months ago, and not out of spite at the time.
I don't think I'm the measuring stick you want to hold his behavior against. As for his behavior in relation to me - I won't be delegating my response to inappropriate behaviors elsewhere.
[ the nebulous thing where he doesn't know what to do with her and blurts out lovely things like you murderer in casual conversation, that thing? annie shakes her head. she doesn't get what kanaya and houka were even talking about over her, when it comes down to it. correcting for stalking is about learning stealth or subtly in the practice if it's still felt as necessary.
she doesn't think pointing that out to kanaya right now is going to help anything, and she wonders if it wouldn't come off wrong, anyway. but it's not like she can fault him in her particular case - she'd hold it against him for others, simply because they can't handle that kind of scrutiny. annie doesn't like it, but she's dealt with it, and it had come to a point of being dangerous to herself or others, or even houka himself...
she'd handle it. which is why kanaya's request makes her tap on her comm, ultimately shrugging. ]
With him, I'd be more concerned on your part if he's targeting people for no discernible reason. Being followed in a public space is a nuisance. Worrying about my electronic transmissions is a nuisance, but I know those aren't protected anyway. He taught me that months ago, and not out of spite at the time.
I don't think I'm the measuring stick you want to hold his behavior against. As for his behavior in relation to me - I won't be delegating my response to inappropriate behaviors elsewhere.
If you called me to advocate for her, you could at least offer some advocacy.
[ well, that's pretty much exactly how inumuta presented it, some thing that is wholly just his and annie's business where he has no idea what to think of her and stocks her to make fun of her dancing later. aka houka inumuta doesn't know how to talk to girls, especially when they have shady pasts. ]
i really think its far more indicative of him than a specific handling for you
this isnt the first time ive had to chide him for a lack of boundaries
and honestly i think youre getting the lesson from a biased source
of course he would tell you those avenues arent protected when he regularly violates them
just because its possible for someone to to compromise whatever security we can attempt to establish in these parts of our lives doesnt give them the right
annie youre talking about this as if he doesnt have a problem
i really think its far more indicative of him than a specific handling for you
this isnt the first time ive had to chide him for a lack of boundaries
and honestly i think youre getting the lesson from a biased source
of course he would tell you those avenues arent protected when he regularly violates them
just because its possible for someone to to compromise whatever security we can attempt to establish in these parts of our lives doesnt give them the right
annie youre talking about this as if he doesnt have a problem
you may well have
there are at least two imports of the status that i can name
[ and one of them is rose. ]
but if youre thinking of gods in the religious sense then youre approaching it from the wrong angle
it isnt something to just believe in
its just something that is whether you believe it or not
worship as you like but it would seem a little silly to me
there are at least two imports of the status that i can name
[ and one of them is rose. ]
but if youre thinking of gods in the religious sense then youre approaching it from the wrong angle
it isnt something to just believe in
its just something that is whether you believe it or not
worship as you like but it would seem a little silly to me
Edited 2014-10-30 02:19 (UTC)
I can be right here when you do, unless you'd prefer I cleared the room.
[ she's vaguely amused. ]
He's not my only source for that sort of thing.
[ she doesn't take anything as "the word" from just once source, not even ones like tony - and she has a lot of respect for tony. (and wariness, but that's with everyone. it's natural.) ]
Kanaya, I may need to point out that to me, his problem is presentation and lack of subtly in what he does. He doesn't understand how to interface with people well, or how to watch them to see what he should be doing to interface. That's a problem. He needs to gain a better sense of how to socialize.
Stalking... I don't know if I understand what you mean by that. Pursuing and following people for the sake of information? I have the sense that's what he does, and he does it poorly, when not choosing to camouflage himself. If you mean the kind of following that signals intent to harm, sexual gratification, or obsession, I don't feel obsession with anything other than information is Houka's problem... but I don't know him that well. All I say is based on my observations, and what he's said, or acted like, before.
He's not my only source for that sort of thing.
[ she doesn't take anything as "the word" from just once source, not even ones like tony - and she has a lot of respect for tony. (and wariness, but that's with everyone. it's natural.) ]
Kanaya, I may need to point out that to me, his problem is presentation and lack of subtly in what he does. He doesn't understand how to interface with people well, or how to watch them to see what he should be doing to interface. That's a problem. He needs to gain a better sense of how to socialize.
Stalking... I don't know if I understand what you mean by that. Pursuing and following people for the sake of information? I have the sense that's what he does, and he does it poorly, when not choosing to camouflage himself. If you mean the kind of following that signals intent to harm, sexual gratification, or obsession, I don't feel obsession with anything other than information is Houka's problem... but I don't know him that well. All I say is based on my observations, and what he's said, or acted like, before.
i agree his methods and unwillingness to learn proper socialization is the issue
but i dont think his subtlety is really a part of that
if he actually knew how to deal with anyone then he wouldnt need to be subtle
he just needs to weed out the creepiness
and while it may not be quite obsession it is certainly overinvestment
but you know when you start going out of your way to follow someone the line between overinvestment and obsession becomes very thin
it isnt even about information
if you think he means to study you for the sake of some protective contingency that may at some point possibly become necessary
or at least that he suspects might
that isnt what he was after
he even admitted as much to me
he just wanted some ammunition for some petty remark about your dancing in the future
to go to those lengths for something so trivial
that crosses right over the line of obsession
but i dont think his subtlety is really a part of that
if he actually knew how to deal with anyone then he wouldnt need to be subtle
he just needs to weed out the creepiness
and while it may not be quite obsession it is certainly overinvestment
but you know when you start going out of your way to follow someone the line between overinvestment and obsession becomes very thin
it isnt even about information
if you think he means to study you for the sake of some protective contingency that may at some point possibly become necessary
or at least that he suspects might
that isnt what he was after
he even admitted as much to me
he just wanted some ammunition for some petty remark about your dancing in the future
to go to those lengths for something so trivial
that crosses right over the line of obsession
i told you it was creepy
do you see what i mean now
do you see what i mean now
Page 24 of 90